Once Saved Always Saved Lie (Page 3)
"Once Saved Always Saved" blinds individuals from the dangers and severity of sin.
Psalms 66:18 If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me:
Proverbs 15:29 The LORD is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous. Proverbs 28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination. Isaiah 1:15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood. Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you,d that he will not hear. John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth. Galatians 4:3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world: Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. James 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Even those that *did not like to* continue to hold or have (retain) God in their knowledge are worthy of death!
Romans 1:28-32 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Exodus 34:28 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.
Four hundred and thirty years (Galatians 3:17) is the time period when God voiced to Abraham the Ten Commandments, to when Moses was given the written tablets of the Ten Commandments, that was written by the Finger of the same Spirit that inhabited Christ, Who then fulfilled His Own Promise to Abraham for all the familes upon the planet to be given the tools of Good and Righteousness to overcome sin. The old covenant got a new garment (new wine). A Newness that did Personally display and teach God's Good and Righteousness, the Ten Commandments!Galatians 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
Genesis 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
Matthew 9:17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved. Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. It is quite clear in Romans 1:28 that some Do not *like to* retain (continue to have) God in their knowledge. Yet "Once Saved Always Saved" teachers and followers believe they are still saved for Eternally Living Life.
Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
John 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. "Once Saved Always Saved" teachers and followers believe they can do nothing themselves. They believe Jesus can and does all things for them, misinterpreting John 15:5.
John 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
These individuals are saying they cannot love nor do good and righteousness on their own, that Jesus has to do it for them. Basically, Jesus had to not only die a horrific death for them, but He must do their walk in love, Good and Righteousness for them also.
1 John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
Matthew 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. Luke 13:9 And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down. John 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. These individuals do not truly understand the scripture, nor God's Good and Righteousness in Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is God's Good and Righteousness in the Flesh! So we must be *in* the same Good and Righteousness to do that which is truly Good and Righteous, because our own good and righteousness *was* as filthy rags.
Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Scriptures say we can do all things through and in Christ (Good and Righteousness)!Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 2 Corinthians 7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. Ephesians 4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. Colossians 3:10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
Matthew 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. Philippians 4:9 Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you. Psalms 31:23 O love the LORD, all ye his saints: for the LORD preserveth the faithful, and plentifully rewardeth the proud doer. Individuals that justify their belief in "Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS)" can always sight and rehearse the scriptures that are referring to and/or addressing the true-to-faith, Holy, Pure Children of God that have overcome sin, but they cannot sight the many scriptures that speak of and warn them and others of falling and putting away faith, departing the Living God, failing the Grace of God, and do not overcome sin.
2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
1 Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. Hebrews 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. Hebrews 12:15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled; 1 Timothy 1:19-20 Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck: Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme. 2 Peter 2:19-20 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. Jesus prayed for Simon that his faith doesn't fail. Are OSASers better or above Simon, to be so bold to say they can never fall? Would it not be a blessing to have the Lord Jesus pray for their faith?
Luke 22:31-32 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.
Why would Jesus be concerned about finding faith on the earth at His return, if individuals are "Once Saved Always Saved", and Eternally Secure?
Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
The days should be shortened or no flesh will be saved? But, how could this be, if "Once Saved Always Saved"?
Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Individuals that believe and follow "Once Saved Always Saved" believe that no one can pluck them out of the Lord's hands, yet ignore that sin, self, and Satan can, have, and will lead astray, if one chooses to allow such to take place.
James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
Sin has and will always separated man from God. We are told to put on the full armour of God for a reason. 1 Timothy 3:6-7 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your GOD, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. Satan's time is short. If "Once Saved Always Saved" followers cannot be plucked out of the Lord's hands, why would Satan waste his time tempting someone (OSASers) that is unmoveable?
1 Thessalonians 3:5 For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labour be in vain.
If "Once Saved Always Saved" individuals are unmovable, why are believers warned to be steadfast and unmovable.1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
1 Corinthians 15:58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
1 Timothy 1:5-6 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned: From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; John 10:26-28 says His sheep must know Him, and follow Him (footsteps) in all points, including keeping His Commandments to overcome sin! Yet OSASers preach all they have to do is believe in the Name of Jesus Christ, His birth, death, and resurrection for Eternal Living Life! They teach nothing about knowing Him, obeying Him, and truly following Him and His Righteous ways. Instead, they pick and choose what they follow in Christ!
Jeremiah 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
John 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. John 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. As the Good Shepherd, Jesus protects His sheep so no one can destroy them, as long as the sheep hear Jesus and follow Him. Are we truly hearing Him, AND following Him? Or are we listening to others, and eating spoon fed lies? So where did these individuals originally hear of "Once Saved Always Saved"? Certainly not the Bible, nor from the Spirit of God!
Matthew 13:9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
In the parable of the sower, Jesus Himself taught the truth and warned about falling away from faith. In explaining the seed which fell among the thorns and the rocks, Jesus said, "Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away."
Luke 8:12-13 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
The only group that had a successful outcome were those who bare fruit an hundredfold (doers). But, some believed for awhile, and in time of temptation fell away. They believed,.. but isn't that what OSASers teach, "all you have to do is believe to have eternal security"?
Luke 8:5-8 A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it. And some fell upon a rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, because it lacked moisture. And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprang up with it, and choked it. And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold. And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
"Once Saved Always Saved" teachers and followers do not truly know God, His Good & Righteousness, nor what He voiced in the Bible. Whether He says "I never knew you", or "I know you not", neither are fit for the Kingdom. If OSASers do not know Him, or His voice, He knows them not!!!!
Matthew 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
The sheep that belong to the Good Shepherd truly know Him, His voice, and follow Him (John 10:27). His sheep walk as He walked in His Footsteps to Heaven (1 Peter 2:21, 1 John 2:6), keeping the Father's commandments as he did.Luke 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: Luke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. Matthew 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
Our actions and deeds (fruit) allow God to know who is truly worthy of His Salvation for Eternal Living Life! We are to reflect and represent God, His Good and Righteousness in all we do and say; spreading His Love, Good and Righteousness upon the planet!
1 Samuel 2:3 Talk no more so exceeding proudly; let not arrogancy come out of your mouth: for the LORD is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed.
Romans 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds: Acts 19:18 And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds. 2 Corinthians 12:12 Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds. The scriptures warn about being doubleminded, compromisers of the faith and truth.
Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 2 Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. Hebrews 13:9 Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein. 2 Peter 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. James 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin. 1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. "Once Saved Always Saved" teachers and followers teach individuals that they can never walk away from their given salvation, but can lose rewards.
Hebrews 2:1 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip. For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;
These individuals ignore the fact that the first reward to lose is the crown of life (eternal life). It is heaven or hell upon physical death, no in-betweens. Once in hell, there is no getting out. Even though, many are taught those in hell will stand before Christ, it's just another lie or misinterpretation. There is no need for them to stand before the Lord, they have already been judged. They made the choice long ago to reject and not know God. There is no getting out of Hell. They wait on Final Judgment when Hell is thrown into the Lake of Fire.
Psalms 1:5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. The first death is of the physical body. The second death is the death of the Spirit and Soul, final and everlasting destruction! When the Soul of man becomes destroyed in the Lake of Fire, that Spirit does dissipate, because the Soul (God's eternal breath) does give the Spirit of man the ability to exist eternally. (More understanding of man's created spirit and soul can be found on this website)
Matthew 10:2 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. 2 Thessalonians 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; The ALL that must appear before the judgment seat of Christ in 2 Corinthians 5:10 is speaking of ALL those that are in heaven. The ungodly don't stand in judgment, nor in the congregation of the righteous (Psalms 1:5).
2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
Psalms 1:5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. Jesus Himself described in another parable how a faithful servant could turn into an unfaithful one.
Luke 12:45-48 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.
"To Whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required."Once again the parable of the faithful servant is a perfect example how a professed faithful and wise servant of the Lord can fall away and be punished with the unbelievers. Jesus was talking about a man whom He had seen faithful enough to trust with heavy responsibilities. Undoubtedly, this servant represents those who serve the Lord as a believer. This very faithful servant departed from the path of faithfulness, to reap eternal ruin and death.
Luke 9:62 And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.
The faithful believer/servant drew himself back into perdition. Yet, "OSASers" completely ignore, dismiss, and/or reject the factual truth.Hebrews 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul (Holy Spirit) shall have no pleasure in him.
Luke 12:49 I am come to send fire (truth) on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled (rejected)?
"Once Saved Always Saved" believe God will never forsake them. Scriptures say, "if ye forsake him, he will forsake you".
II Chronicles 15:2 The LORD is with you, while ye be with him; and if ye seek him, he will be found of you; but if ye forsake him, he will forsake you.
1 Chronicles 28:9 And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever. Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
2 Timothy 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
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