Once Saved Always Saved Lie (Page 3)
"Once Saved Always Saved" blinds individuals from the dangers and severity of sin.
Psalms 66:18 If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me:
Proverbs 15:29 The LORD is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous. Proverbs 28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination. Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. James 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. James 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin. Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, It is quite clear in Romans 1:28 that some Do not like to retain God in their knowledge. Yet "Once Saved Always Saved" teachers and followers believe they are still saved for Eternally Living Life, when those that do Not like to continue to retain God in their knowledge are worthy of death.
Romans 1:28-32 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
1 Corinthians 15:34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame. Colossians 1:10 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;
Proverbs 4:4 He taught me also, and said unto me, Let thine heart retain my words: keep my commandments, and live.
John 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. "Once Saved Always Saved" teachers and followers believe they can do nothing themselves. They believe Jesus can and does do all things for them, when they misinterpret John 15:5.
John 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
These individuals are saying they cannot love, nor do good and righteousness on their own. They believe Jesus does or had done it all for them. Jesus' horrific death and His taking their place unto death wasn't enough for them. These weak individuals expect Jesus to do their walk in love, Good and Righteousness for them also. These same individuals must believe God created them as robots with no mind or heart of their own.These same individuals reject the Example that was afforded them to follow after to become sons of God likened to Christ, whether they realize it or not. In turn, they reject the Power to become sons of God (John 1:12).
1 John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
John is saying in 15:5; Man can do nothing without the knowledge of God and His Righteousness to be fruitful.Matthew 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. Luke 13:9 And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down. John 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: These individuals do not truly understand the scriptures, nor God's Good and Righteousness in Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is God's Good and Righteousness displayed in the Flesh. Individuals must be in the same Good and Righteousness to do that which is truly Good and Righteous, because their own good and righteousness is as filthy rags.
Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
2 Corinthians 7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. Ephesians 4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. Colossians 3:10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: God does Voice within the scriptures that individuals can do all things through and in Christ if they walk in His Good and Righteousness that Jesus did Physically teach and display.
Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
1 John 2:29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him. 1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. 2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. Ephesians 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;) Individuals that justify their belief in "Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS)" can always recite the scriptures that are referring to the Christians that have overcome sin, but they cannot sight the many scriptures that warn them and others of falling, putting away faith, departing the Living God, failing the Grace of God, and the consequences if they do Not overcome sin.
2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
1 Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. Hebrews 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. Hebrews 12:15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled; 1 Timothy 1:19-20 Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck: Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme. Luke 9:62 And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God. 2 Peter 2:19-20 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. Jesus prayed for Simon that his faith doesn't fail. Are OSASers better or above Simon to be so bold to say they can never fall? It is a blessing to have the Lord Jesus pray for an individual's faith!
Luke 22:31-32 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.
Why would Jesus be concerned about finding faith on the earth at His return if individuals are "Once Saved Always Saved" and Eternally Secure?
Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
The days should be shortened or no flesh will be saved? How could this be if an individual is "Once Saved Always Saved"?
Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Individuals that believe and follow "Once Saved Always Saved" believe that no one can pluck them out of the Lord's hands. These individuals ignore the fact that sin, self, and Satan can, has, and will lead astray if an individual does choose to allow such to take place.
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?
James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 1 Timothy 3:6-7 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. 1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: 2 Peter 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; Sin has and will always separated man from God. Christians are warned and told to put on the full armour of God for a reason. Unfortunately, many Christians take some of it or all of their armour off. Those strong in Righteousness always keep their armour on (Ephesians 6:14-18).
James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your GOD, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. Ephesians 6:12-13 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Satan's time is short. If "Once Saved Always Saved" followers cannot be plucked out of the Lord's hands, why would Satan waste his time tempting someone that is unmoveable? He already has the lost, wicked, ungodly, and unrighteous.
1 Thessalonians 3:5 For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labour be in vain.
If "Once Saved Always Saved" individuals are unmovable, why are believers warned to be steadfast and unmovable.1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
1 Corinthians 15:58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
1 Timothy 1:5-6 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned: From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; John 10:26-28 says His sheep must know Him, and follow Him (footsteps) in all points, including keeping His Commandments to overcome sin. Yet, OSASers preach all they have to do is believe in the Name of Jesus Christ, His birth, death, and resurrection for Eternal Living Life. They teach nothing about knowing Him, obeying Him, and truly following Him and His Righteous ways. Instead, they pick and choose what they follow in Christ. These individuals ignore or dismiss the fact that the same Spirit within Jesus wrote the Ten Commandments with His Holy Finger, which makes them Holy. In turn, they ignore and dismiss their learning concerning the Ten Commandments, their relevance, and importance to All mankind upon the planet.
John 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
John 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. 1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. Romans 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Proverbs 6:23 For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life: Psalms 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. These same individuals lack understanding of Old Testament scriptures as to why Jesus had to Personally bring the Law of Righteousness, the Ten Commandments to the Gentiles and the Jews to follow after and live by so they can obtain Eternal Living Life. Jesus was man's Visual Example of what it takes to become a son of God, being a Son of God Himself. A Physical Example was given to man in a Way that physical man can physical sight, relate to, and learn from. Are Christians truly hearing Jesus and following Him? Or are they listening to others and eating spoon fed lies? Who initially taught man "Once Saved Always Saved"? Certainly not the Spirit of God! Satan is the father of lies!
Genesis 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. In the parable of the sower, Jesus Himself taught the truth, and warned about falling away from faith. In explaining the seed which fell among the thorns and the rocks, Jesus said, "Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away."
Luke 8:12-13 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
Some believed for awhile, and in time of temptation fell away. They believed,.. but isn't that what OSASers teach, "all you have to do is believe to have eternal security"? Is it Jesus that is lying about believers falling away?These believers that believed for a while, and in time of temptation fell away were believers not deeply rooted in righteousness. "Once Saved Always Saved" teachers and followers do not truly know God, His Good & Righteousness, nor what He voiced in the Bible. Whether He says "I never knew you" or "I know you not", neither are fit for the Kingdom. If OSASers do not know Him or His voice, He knows them not!!!!
Matthew 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
Luke 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: Luke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. Matthew 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. The sheep that belong to the Good Shepherd truly know Him, His voice and follow Him (John 10:27). His sheep walk as He walked in His Footsteps to Heaven (1 Peter 2:21, 1 John 2:6), keeping the Father's commandments as he kept them. The Ten Commandments of the Father were written by the Finger of the same Spirit that inhabited Christ. The same Ten Commandments that Jesus Physically brought, taught, and displayed for all the families of earth to learn and live by.
John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
An individual's actions and deeds (fruit) allow God to know who is truly worthy of His Salvation for Eternal Living Life. Members of the Church are to reflect and represent God, His Good and Righteousness in all they do and say; spreading His Love, Good and Righteousness upon the planet.
2 Thessalonians 1:5 Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:
Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Ephesians 4:1-2 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; Colossians 1:10 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God; 2 Thessalonians 1:11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power: 1 Thessalonians 2:12 That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory. Proverbs 11:30 The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise. Matthew 7:17-18 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Matthew 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 1 Samuel 2:3 Talk no more so exceeding proudly; let not arrogancy come out of your mouth: for the LORD is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed. Romans 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds: The scriptures warn about being doubleminded, compromisers of the faith and truth.
James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
James 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. Romans 1:28-32 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. "Once Saved Always Saved" teachers and followers teach individuals that they can never walk away from their given salvation, but can lose rewards. These individuals ignore the fact that the first reward to lose is the crown of life (eternal life). It is heaven or hell upon physical death, there is no in-between. Once in hell, there is no getting out. Even though, many are taught those in hell will stand before Christ, it's just another lie or misinterpretation. There is no need for them to stand before the Lord, they have already been judged. They made their choice to reject and to not truly know God and His Righteousness. There is no getting out of Hell. Those individuals that weren't rewarded Eternal Living Life await in Hell on Final Judgment and second death (death of the soul). If an individual chooses to not know Him while on earth, then He chooses to not know them in Heaven; "depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity".
Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Psalms 1:5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Luke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. Matthew 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. The first death is of the physical body. The second death is the death of the Spirit and Soul; final and everlasting destruction. When the Soul of man becomes destroyed in the Lake of Fire, that Spirit does dissipate, because the Soul (God's eternal breath) does give the Spirit of man the ability to exist eternally. (More understanding of man's created spirit and soul can be found on this website)
Matthew 10:2 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. 2 Thessalonians 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; The ALL that must appear before the judgment seat of Christ in 2 Corinthians 5:10 is speaking of ALL those that are rewarded Eternal Living Life. The ungodly don't stand in judgment, nor in the congregation of the righteous (Psalms 1:5). The ungodly/unrighteous have already been judged upon physical death.The ungodly/unrighteous cannot stand in the presence of the Supreme Holy and Pure God without a New Glorified body, which is only rewarded to true Sons of God.
2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
Psalms 1:5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. Jesus Himself described in another parable how a faithful servant could turn into an unfaithful one.
Luke 12:45-48 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.
"To Whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required."Once again the parable of the faithful servant is a perfect example how a professed faithful and wise servant of the Lord can fall away and be punished with the unbelievers. Jesus was talking about a man whom He had seen faithful enough to trust with heavy responsibilities. Undoubtedly, this servant represents those who serve the Lord as a believer. This very faithful servant departed from the path of faithfulness to reap eternal ruin and death.
Luke 9:62 And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.
The faithful believer/servant drew himself back into perdition. Yet, "OSASers" completely ignore, dismiss, and/or reject the factual truth.Hebrews 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul (Holy Spirit) shall have no pleasure in him.
Luke 12:49 I am come to send fire (truth) on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled (rejected)?
"Once Saved Always Saved" believe God will never forsake them. Scriptures say, "if ye forsake him, he will forsake you".
II Chronicles 15:2 The LORD is with you, while ye be with him; and if ye seek him, he will be found of you; but if ye forsake him, he will forsake you.
1 Chronicles 28:9 And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever. Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. 2 Timothy 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
2 Peter 2:19-20 |